Par for the Leftist course. Look at what they did to Land O Lakes butter logo after not consulting any First Nationers (is that the correct term now?):
Something that you don’t seem to have mentioned here is that the Dylan Mulvaney - Budweiser collaboration was an influencer marketing campaign. An influencer marketing campaign is when a brand approaches a social media ‘influencer’ (someone who has a bunch of followers on Instagram or TikTok or whatever) and pays that person to promote their brand. This is entirely different from an ad campaign or a general marketing campaign because the audience is limited exclusively to those who follow Dylan Mulvaney on TikTok, (or are recommended her content based on their in-app activity). I personally had never heard of her before the influencer campaign was brought to international attention by conservative trolls. Other conservatives then engaged in a mass tantrum over having ‘trans stuff’ ‘shoved down their throats’. It’s really one of the most hilarious situations we’ve seen in this whole culture war thus far.
You said that “the real issue, in my opinion, is that we are expected to be totally okay with it”. ‘Okay’ with what? What is this all about? Who exactly is showing you these ad campaigns and asking you whether or not you're ‘okay with’ it?
On the TikTok app alone, there are over 100 thousand paid influencers promoting countless brands. All of these I will never know or see or care about, how are you being surveyed on this stuff? It’s mind boggling, honestly.
By "being okay with it", I mean we're not allowed to criticize it. In the case of a brand like Bud Light, part of a publicly traded corporation, the people who buy it that are not part of Mulvaney's circle of influence obviously still have opinion. And they made it known. You can call them trolls if you like, but boycotting brands is hardly anything new. In fact, there's at least one study that shows that those on the left are way more likely to do it than those on the right.
I used the word ‘trolls’ in reference to the person/people who went out of their way to bring Dylan Mulvaney influencer campaign to the attention of a wider audience. If you’re someone like me who doesn’t follow Dylan on TikTok, and frankly doesn’t care what people are doing on TikTok as long they aren’t harming anybody, then it seems strange to seek this stuff out, and the type of person who does that can be called a troll, can’t they?
I don’t have any problems with boycotts, I think they’re a great way of ‘voting with your wallet’. If people want to boycott Budweiser, I say go for it!
“We're not allowed to criticize it”. By ‘it’, I presume you mean Dylan Mulvaney’s Bud Light promotion. So you’re saying that we (the general public?) are ‘not allowed’ to criticize Dylan Mulvaney’s Bud Light promotion? What does this mean?
It means that me "having a problem" with Bud using a man pretending to be a woman to promote their product is deemed unacceptable. Not by everyone of course, but at least by the "progressive" left, which is a very loud and shrill segment of the population. Just like me having the same problem with Mulvaney promoting sports bras for Nike is seen as "transphobic" because I evidently don't understand the he is actually a woman and I must be a terrible bigot for pointing out that it would've made much more sense to hire a real woman for that job.
I see. Well, if we’re using THAT definition of “not allowed”, then none of us are allowed to do anything ! Haha. I think that no matter what you do or say in this world, someone, somewhere will have a problem with it. That’s fine! And there’s not much you can do about it anyway except ignore it or try to engage if you so choose. Unless…. you’re suggesting that people shouldn’t be allowed to have a problem with you having a problem? It’s all a bit circular. The best way is if we’re all allowed to conduct ourselves and express ourselves however we see fit, so long as we aren’t harming anyone, which I think you basically said in your original post. Speaking of which, didn’t you write a blog post titled “Dear Trans People, Please Allow Me to be Your Ally” ?? Now, that’s confusing !!
This begs the question: Who is it that sets societal "norms"? I think the answer to that it's not necessarily the majority, but those in power. And also the media in this part of the world (assuming they're not just an arm of those in power).
Personally, I don't really care if anyone has a problem with me having a problem with anything, but I do care that some others might care about that and not say anything. (How's that for confusing?)
If by ‘those in power’ you mean capitalism, then I agree. The music we hear, the books we read, the clothes we wear, the food we eat, the homes and the furniture, the television and the films in the cinema. What we get is what ‘sells’, and in that way it’s almost democratic. I know who Justin Bieber is and you know who he is too and that’s because he’s popular. He sells. I would say capitalism is what shapes the culture and the societal norms more than anything. Having said that, just because something is a ‘societal norm’, doesn’t mean it’s worthy of our respect. As they say, ‘tradition is just peer pressure from dead people’. Tradition and ‘societal norms’ need to be challenged and sometimes rejected. That’s the only way we’ve ever made any progress.
Par for the Leftist course. Look at what they did to Land O Lakes butter logo after not consulting any First Nationers (is that the correct term now?):
https://www.google.com/search?q=land+o+lakes+logo+meme&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwi7greRpqL-AhV9M94AHbS6BWUQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=land+o+lakes+logo+meme&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQAzIFCAAQgAQyBggAEAcQHjIGCAAQCBAeOgQIIxAnUJ4JWJ4JYKUPaABwAHgAgAE8iAFvkgEBMpgBAKABAaoBC2d3cy13aXotaW1nwAEB&sclient=img&ei=a5E1ZPugG_3m-LYPtPWWqAY&bih=915&biw=1527&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS862US862#imgrc=22XBsZJmJ5iuKM
That's actually pretty funny, although I'm finding it more difficult to laugh the longer this goes on.
Agreed
Something that you don’t seem to have mentioned here is that the Dylan Mulvaney - Budweiser collaboration was an influencer marketing campaign. An influencer marketing campaign is when a brand approaches a social media ‘influencer’ (someone who has a bunch of followers on Instagram or TikTok or whatever) and pays that person to promote their brand. This is entirely different from an ad campaign or a general marketing campaign because the audience is limited exclusively to those who follow Dylan Mulvaney on TikTok, (or are recommended her content based on their in-app activity). I personally had never heard of her before the influencer campaign was brought to international attention by conservative trolls. Other conservatives then engaged in a mass tantrum over having ‘trans stuff’ ‘shoved down their throats’. It’s really one of the most hilarious situations we’ve seen in this whole culture war thus far.
You said that “the real issue, in my opinion, is that we are expected to be totally okay with it”. ‘Okay’ with what? What is this all about? Who exactly is showing you these ad campaigns and asking you whether or not you're ‘okay with’ it?
On the TikTok app alone, there are over 100 thousand paid influencers promoting countless brands. All of these I will never know or see or care about, how are you being surveyed on this stuff? It’s mind boggling, honestly.
By "being okay with it", I mean we're not allowed to criticize it. In the case of a brand like Bud Light, part of a publicly traded corporation, the people who buy it that are not part of Mulvaney's circle of influence obviously still have opinion. And they made it known. You can call them trolls if you like, but boycotting brands is hardly anything new. In fact, there's at least one study that shows that those on the left are way more likely to do it than those on the right.
https://www.fastcompany.com/90407051/who-boycotts-brands-liberals-and-college-grads-says-study
This is what capitalism is all about though, isn't it?
I used the word ‘trolls’ in reference to the person/people who went out of their way to bring Dylan Mulvaney influencer campaign to the attention of a wider audience. If you’re someone like me who doesn’t follow Dylan on TikTok, and frankly doesn’t care what people are doing on TikTok as long they aren’t harming anybody, then it seems strange to seek this stuff out, and the type of person who does that can be called a troll, can’t they?
I don’t have any problems with boycotts, I think they’re a great way of ‘voting with your wallet’. If people want to boycott Budweiser, I say go for it!
“We're not allowed to criticize it”. By ‘it’, I presume you mean Dylan Mulvaney’s Bud Light promotion. So you’re saying that we (the general public?) are ‘not allowed’ to criticize Dylan Mulvaney’s Bud Light promotion? What does this mean?
It means that me "having a problem" with Bud using a man pretending to be a woman to promote their product is deemed unacceptable. Not by everyone of course, but at least by the "progressive" left, which is a very loud and shrill segment of the population. Just like me having the same problem with Mulvaney promoting sports bras for Nike is seen as "transphobic" because I evidently don't understand the he is actually a woman and I must be a terrible bigot for pointing out that it would've made much more sense to hire a real woman for that job.
I see. Well, if we’re using THAT definition of “not allowed”, then none of us are allowed to do anything ! Haha. I think that no matter what you do or say in this world, someone, somewhere will have a problem with it. That’s fine! And there’s not much you can do about it anyway except ignore it or try to engage if you so choose. Unless…. you’re suggesting that people shouldn’t be allowed to have a problem with you having a problem? It’s all a bit circular. The best way is if we’re all allowed to conduct ourselves and express ourselves however we see fit, so long as we aren’t harming anyone, which I think you basically said in your original post. Speaking of which, didn’t you write a blog post titled “Dear Trans People, Please Allow Me to be Your Ally” ?? Now, that’s confusing !!
This begs the question: Who is it that sets societal "norms"? I think the answer to that it's not necessarily the majority, but those in power. And also the media in this part of the world (assuming they're not just an arm of those in power).
Personally, I don't really care if anyone has a problem with me having a problem with anything, but I do care that some others might care about that and not say anything. (How's that for confusing?)
If by ‘those in power’ you mean capitalism, then I agree. The music we hear, the books we read, the clothes we wear, the food we eat, the homes and the furniture, the television and the films in the cinema. What we get is what ‘sells’, and in that way it’s almost democratic. I know who Justin Bieber is and you know who he is too and that’s because he’s popular. He sells. I would say capitalism is what shapes the culture and the societal norms more than anything. Having said that, just because something is a ‘societal norm’, doesn’t mean it’s worthy of our respect. As they say, ‘tradition is just peer pressure from dead people’. Tradition and ‘societal norms’ need to be challenged and sometimes rejected. That’s the only way we’ve ever made any progress.